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  Date Posted #1 Wednesday, October 30, 2013 12:27:33 AM   

Realms thread above doesn't have origin names, which is required for BF4 and crap. Post em' damnit.


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  Date Posted #2 Wednesday, October 30, 2013 06:35:12 AM   

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  Date Posted #3 Wednesday, October 30, 2013 09:42:27 AM   

Updated sticky topic to include origin server names. 
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  Date Posted #4 Thursday, October 31, 2013 05:14:13 AM   

Aw thanks realm, but srsly who the fuck else is playing 
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  Date Posted #5 Thursday, October 31, 2013 06:18:20 AM   

nobody everyone else around here is boring as fuck 
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  Date Posted #6 Thursday, October 31, 2013 09:09:23 AM   

I just could never really get in to the realistic FPS games. I did try though. Probably be easier if I could LAN with a few guys instead of internet-play. 
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  Date Posted #7 Thursday, October 31, 2013 09:42:05 AM   

I really think you'd like it if you gave it another shot Realmski. There's so many different ways you can play BF. Infantry, get in a tank, chopper, jet, etc.

It's realistic but only to a certain extent. If you want a more arcade experience you can play on the 'normal' servers where you can take a little bit more damage. With 64 player servers you are bound to have some crazy fun stuff happen, mainly because there's always a handful of people that try to do some crazy hilarious stuff.

I giggle at least 5.4 times per match

I do prefer hardcore mode because fools can't get away with doing dumb things and running out in the middle of fire, but the friendly fire can be a real bummer sometimes. A number of times I've run around a corner and spooked someone and gotten blasted by a teamate.  
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  Date Posted #8 Thursday, October 31, 2013 11:25:30 AM   

I'd honestly probably have to sit and spectate someone for a few hours to get a feel for a military game that's not arcadey. I get shot way too often, most likely because I do run out in the middle of bullets flying.

Modern Warfare is seriously arcade-like. I couldn't defeat the last game's challenge simply killing guys hiding in/around/on top of buildings when I was at my brother's last year, and it was on easy; I tried for about an hour. Thankfully I'm apparently still better than my brother since I showed him up on the rooftop challenge.

I'm just not really an FPS player. Unfortunately I'm also pretty poor at RTS. I'm really only decent at 2D or isometric arcade-style games (like Worms, Subspace, GravBall, and that game that Cruel plays which I keep forgetting to try out). I'd wreck your face in Mario Kart though.

I do randomly try games out though. I backed the Kickstarter of Planetary Annihilation (RTS) and will be trying it out. I'm actually able to play the beta now, but I'm going to wait for the stable release.

I'll be renting Batman: Origins from RedBox. That should be fun. How are the graphics in BF4? They look AWESOME in the videos I've seen. 
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  Date Posted #9 Thursday, October 31, 2013 12:28:09 PM   

The graphics are great and the Frostbite engine is always one of the best in terms of polish and scaleability.

Modern Warfare multiplayer experience is just a joke compred to Battlefield imo. MW is everything one would picture when talking about an arcade FPS.

Anyway, Battlefield is definitely a multiplayer focused game as the singleplayer campaign is pretty cookie-cutter, but if you like to play games just to have fun and don't care too much then it would be fine. But multiplayer is where it's at.

I think you'd do fine on normal servers. 
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  Date Posted #10 Thursday, October 31, 2013 05:20:24 PM   

I was on normal servers. I was worse than a newb. My rig was lagging like "whoa" too, even though I kept joining servers that showed high connectivity speed (low ping).

Modern Warfare is more my speed since it is arcade-like. I can get hit with like 20 bullets and fire a grenade launcher to still kill someone and not die. ...and then get knifed and die. But at least I got a kill. BF I stand up from behind a rock and get sniped and die.

I think I got a few assists and/or kills at one point in BF, but I just couldn't figure out WTF was going on in the game and felt seriously detrimental to my team. I played for 1-2 weeks and never really figured it out. 
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  Date Posted #11 Thursday, October 31, 2013 05:27:18 PM   

Originally posted by Realm
I was on normal servers. I was worse than a newb. My rig was lagging like "whoa" too, even though I kept joining servers that showed high connectivity speed (low ping).

Modern Warfare is more my speed since it is arcade-like. I can get hit with like 20 bullets and fire a grenade launcher to still kill someone and not die. ...and then get knifed and die. But at least I got a kill. BF I stand up from behind a rock and get sniped and die.

I think I got a few assists and/or kills at one point in BF, but I just couldn't figure out WTF was going on in the game and felt seriously detrimental to my team. I played for 1-2 weeks and never really figured it out.


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  Date Posted #12 Thursday, November 07, 2013 01:03:15 PM   

might build a pc soon and i'll SQUAD WITH U MALLAR 
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  Date Posted #13 Thursday, November 07, 2013 01:33:57 PM   

Originally posted by x-wing-
might build a pc soon and i'll SQUAD WITH U MALLAR


um no u will squad w/ me bc u do as ur told bitch tits 
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  Date Posted #14 Thursday, November 07, 2013 02:19:05 PM   

Ordered my PC pieces yesterday, once it gets here I will be purchasing BF4


 
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  Date Posted #15 Thursday, November 07, 2013 03:50:04 PM   

Nvidia or AMD? 
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  Date Posted #16 Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:34:24 PM   

radeon r9 280X gamer



someone at Ubisoft built it for me, I dont have the list its floating around in emails. 
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  Date Posted #17 Friday, November 08, 2013 08:47:52 AM   

borigin 
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  Date Posted #18 Friday, November 08, 2013 05:48:51 PM   

AMD REALM YOU ALREADY KNOW WHATS GOOD FOR YOU 
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  Date Posted #19 Friday, November 08, 2013 06:22:47 PM   



anyone know any good gaming keyboards? 
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  Date Posted #20 Saturday, November 09, 2013 04:00:32 PM   

I need a new video card for 1440p... This 7870 is not cutting it... :( 
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  Date Posted #21 Saturday, November 09, 2013 04:21:49 PM   

7870 is not cutting it? Seriously? What games are you playing where it's underperforming? I've got a 7850 and I run almost everything maxed out. Overclocked to 1200/1450 on air. 
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  Date Posted #22 Saturday, November 09, 2013 04:27:41 PM   

Your resolution is 2560x1440? I definitely can't have AA on on most demanding games. 
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  Date Posted #23 Saturday, November 09, 2013 05:03:16 PM   

7870 will struggle to break ~40 fps @ 1080p w/ no AA, in BF4 at least

once you start getting into 1440 range you're gonna have 2 step ur game up 
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  Date Posted #24 Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:33:36 PM   

yeah FL, maybe not in BF4 tho

It's not very well optimized yet. And neither are the drivers. We always get the shit end of drivers. Will be switching to nVidia soon for the built-in recording. 
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  Date Posted #25 Saturday, November 09, 2013 10:52:17 PM   

I wish I was as awesome as your guys... 
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  Date Posted #26 Sunday, November 10, 2013 03:24:06 PM   

Originally posted by Detrimental
yeah FL, maybe not in BF4 tho

It's not very well optimized yet. And neither are the drivers. We always get the shit end of drivers. Will be switching to nVidia soon for the built-in recording.


Yea, Det... I'm looking at the GTX 780. If I can sell my 7870 for $120ish... Really, I'm not sure what to do with my PC. I'm still running an i5-750 and really it doesn't seem to be a bottle neck yet but its been so long since I upgrade I feel like I need to do something...

So this is my setup atm:

i5-750 CPU
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256MB SSD
Korean 2560x1440 Monitor

But 780 is still so expensive...


 
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  Date Posted #27 Tuesday, November 12, 2013 09:06:40 AM   

That i5 is shit. You need at least an ivy bridge update stat. Get the gtx770 and sli it down the road when you need to. 780 is too pricy at this point IMO. 
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  Date Posted #28 Tuesday, November 12, 2013 07:47:36 PM   

That i5 is at 3.8Ghz and still in the third tier on the gaming hierarchy chart at Toms...

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,3106-5.html

Do you really think it's a bottleneck in my system?

I'm going to try to wait until after the first of the year and get a 780, hopefully for around $350-$400 if they'll drop that much. That said, new build is definitely on the radar with an ivy bridge, but it's going to be a complete new PC not an upgrade of this one... 
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  Date Posted #29 Tuesday, November 12, 2013 09:05:07 PM   

If you are going to build a completely new rig just skip ivy and go to haswell 
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  Date Posted #30 Wednesday, November 13, 2013 12:23:59 PM   

haswell doesn't offer much besides power consumption, you can go with the highest i7 in the ivy range and be good for a while.

But haswell's not terribly expensive, and you can future-proof yourself a bit by having the right chipset...

PS that i5 is really a bottleneck IMO - mostly in CPU heavy games like strategy games (Civ V, RTW, etc) - GPU heavy games, you'll be OK with the 750 for a while... The first gen i5/i7 processors are pretty shit tho and get the shit blown out of them by even sandy bridge.

Compare i5-750 vs i5-4670k 
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  Date Posted #31 Wednesday, November 13, 2013 01:30:29 PM   

Yeah might as well spend the little extra $$ and at least get something that's a little better w/ consumption and also get yourself on a platform that may see another iteration before it's phased out.

GO BIG OR GO HOME 
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  Date Posted #32 Wednesday, November 13, 2013 02:18:20 PM   

Out of curiosity just how much do you 2 spend a year making sure your graphics card can display blades of grass or other asinine shit realistically, because it seems every 2-3 months there's a new topic for this. 
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  Date Posted #33 Wednesday, November 13, 2013 02:59:33 PM   

I upgrade every 2 years, on principle. I just advise people that ask.

My 7850 handles 1440p just dandy. But I do have an i5-3570k @ 4.5GHz on air.

My rig is probably worth about $750, tbh.

I spend much, MUCH more money on consoles, though. 
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  Date Posted #34 Monday, November 18, 2013 09:17:57 PM   

Originally posted by Sinn Fein
Out of curiosity just how much do you 2 spend a year making sure your graphics card can display blades of grass or other asinine shit realistically, because it seems every 2-3 months there's a new topic for this.


Video card upgrades are every year to two years. But you sell your old one. So it's not as bad as it sounds... 
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  Date Posted #35 Monday, November 18, 2013 10:09:53 PM   

Originally posted by Realm
BF I stand up from behind a rock and get sniped and die.


The problem is that homos know all the maps by heart which is a huge advantage in bf3/bf4 they always got the angles on the basic cover spots and constantly scanning them.

In BF3 I found the trick is instead of playing their game, just grab a shotgun or submachinegun and rush into buildings, clear anything moving then move on fast. Tripled my scores playing like that. Don't play the longer range rifle game you won't win against the campers. 
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  Date Posted #36 Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:25:52 AM   

IA bitches about getting owned in the chopper as soon as it takes off, Im like its either the choppers own because they have no engineers or they get owned because they have a lot of engineers.


My only problem with BF games is, the smaller your gun the quicker you get the kill

Tripoded LMG (10rounds) vs Submachine or pistol (5 rounds) = LMG loses


chopper minigun spraying rounds, you should technically kill anybody with a side spray with this weapon, Ill hit the guy with 20 rounds and he still walkin..

taking 5 shots from a 50cal. lol CMON 
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  Date Posted #37 Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:40:49 AM   

Agreed Rickers, I play on Hardcore servers to try to compensate the fact that the hit detection seems to have some issues, as well as the fact that Normal servers feel too arcade-like for the reasons you mentioned. The chopper miniguns spray enough as is, so it takes a stupid amount of rounds to take someone out from a distance unless you get the lucky headshot out of the spray. On normal mode it's just hilarious how much damage people can take. I don't know if it's because the damage numbers need some tweaking or the netcode itself needs some tweaking. The devs have indicated there is some netcode issues to be worked out so it might just be that.

To your point Beelz, I find the rounds much more enjoyable when I'm actively playing the capture points in conquest. There will always be the idiots camping around with their sniper rifles trying to pad their k/d ratio, but there's some good options for taking them out. If a match isn't close I've seen a few commanders exclusively target snipers with cruise missiles. It's great. 
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  Date Posted #38 Tuesday, November 19, 2013 02:32:37 PM   

Never a fan of these hardcore modes either. Lowering HP for insta kills just encourages more camping because first shot always win. There's very little fun or intellectually redeeming gameplay in that, just change the name of game to ambushfield 4.

BF1942 had very arcadeish settings BTW, and it was fantastic. Gameplay balance is more important than nerd "realism". 
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  Date Posted #39 Tuesday, November 19, 2013 03:18:28 PM   

I find even in HC mode the only consistent camping issues involve recon players playing sniper. I've had great success on HC servers moving from capture point to capture point without getting ambushed too much. If you are moving on a capture point it is inevitable to get ambushed by someone camping the point while they are capturing or defending it. it's just the nature of protecting the point itself and is just as effective on normal or HC mode.

It seems like with an effective commander combined with the improved random spawning that spawn camping itself is reduced from what I've seen on the servers.

Gameplay is better balanced on HC servers. The discrepancy between poorly balanced weaponry is less noticeable. This could change depending on what balancing tweaks they make going forward and what they do to improve hit detection. 
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  Date Posted #40 Friday, November 22, 2013 10:08:29 AM   

hopefully gonna pick this up on blackfriday for like 25 bucks. does everyone have that membership thing to get all the dlc etc for free 
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  Date Posted #41 Friday, November 22, 2013 10:11:11 AM   

Yes, it's the premium package and it's like $40 or something. So yes the DLC is free but you are paying up for it. It's cheaper than buying them individually and you get additional goodies w/ the premium package. 
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  Date Posted #42 Friday, November 22, 2013 11:21:36 AM   

I have this game on PC, friend me on Origin "Deisun".
I got the Premium package too. It's definitely w0rth if you like the Battlefield series.

I prefer Hardcore I think as well - the spotting is too strong in Normal. At least in Hardcore you can still spot and someone shows on the map but not on the screen with that red marker. In normal, that shit is OP and does not allow you to move around the map effectively without getting hunted down by everyone and their grandmother.

If you're worried about campers, there are scopes you can use to spot campers with some decent level of success. I find that it's not an issue on Conquest mode, which is what I like to play. 
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  Date Posted #43 Friday, November 22, 2013 11:53:58 AM   

A potential bug is gaining a lot of steam that there are severe problems with hit detection and the formula for calculating damage being completely borked. DICE hasn't commented on it yet (as with pretty much every issue thus far really) but it looks like it could be big deal because it adversely effects the damage that people are doing to one another. 
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  Date Posted #44 Friday, November 22, 2013 02:04:29 PM   

WERD BROS ILL C U ON DA BATTELFELD on monday maybe. unless i die in vegas 
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  Date Posted #45 Friday, November 22, 2013 02:34:53 PM   

Originally posted by ACX
I have this game on PC, friend me on Origin "Deisun".


Added to the stickied topic. 
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  Date Posted #46 Sunday, November 24, 2013 09:05:21 PM   

Is this game still shit? Someone tell me when they fix multi and I'll buy it... Not until then though... 
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  Date Posted #47 Monday, November 25, 2013 11:13:31 AM   

Originally posted by fldash
Is this game still shit? Someone tell me when they fix multi and I'll buy it... Not until then though...


Well, the servers are definitely more stable and they have fixed a lot of the crashes. Some are still having issues. There's a new R12 patch coming out for the servers today I think and another client patch in the works that should help as well.

I'd wait another week or so and just get it when the China Rising expansion comes out. 
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  Date Posted #48 Monday, November 25, 2013 11:50:46 AM   

OR JUST GET IT FROM BLACKFRIDAY SALES

does the China XP come free if you get the premium membership thing 
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  Date Posted #49 Monday, November 25, 2013 12:48:01 PM   

If you buy the Premium subscription, you get all DLC's for free as they are released. 
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  Date Posted #50 Monday, November 25, 2013 06:58:37 PM   

well fine. guess i'll have to get it 
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  Date Posted #51 Thursday, November 28, 2013 10:24:50 AM   

Just got BF4 for $20...

http://slickdeals.net/f/6495000-battlefield-4-pc-at-origin-for-19-99-tax-with-mcdonald-s-coupon

 
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  Date Posted #53 Friday, November 29, 2013 02:20:08 PM   

Add Daedalao to that list. 
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  Date Posted #54 Saturday, November 30, 2013 01:53:51 PM   

$20 :] 
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  Date Posted #55 Saturday, November 30, 2013 05:21:28 PM   

Where the fuck is the Co-op in this game? 
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  Date Posted #56 Sunday, December 01, 2013 11:49:42 PM   

got the deluxe for 25. holla. downloading now i'll give my name when its done 
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  Date Posted #57 Monday, December 02, 2013 10:40:01 AM   

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