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  Date Posted #1 Wednesday, May 25, 2016 11:42:43 AM   

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  Date Posted #2 Wednesday, May 25, 2016 12:51:35 PM   

we've been over this 
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  Date Posted #3 Thursday, May 26, 2016 11:52:33 AM   

The thing I don't get: Trump seems like a person who lies all the time, no problem. Lies to cover lies, to make him look better, etc.

Hillary seems like someone who rarely lies but has lied before.

However, when I see information about both of them people think Hillary is a huge liar and trump not so much. It doesn't really make sense.

 
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  Date Posted #4 Thursday, May 26, 2016 03:04:59 PM   

No Hillary is definitely someone who lies all the time, it's just their tact with the lies. Donald has this bullshit prove me wrong look on his face when he lies and people like someone who lies with conviction. Hillary on the other hand with her resting bitch face and complete lack of charisma is why alot of people don't trust her.  
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  Date Posted #5 Thursday, May 26, 2016 05:51:32 PM   

It's kinda crazy but I think I like Trump more than Hillary. Sanders was my fav though. Really wish he's revolutionize America. 
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  Date Posted #6 Saturday, May 28, 2016 10:54:30 AM   

Originally posted by Ucross
It's kinda crazy but I think I like Trump more than Hillary. Sanders was my fav though. Really wish he's revolutionize America.


I think people are getting really worked up about Trump over nothing. I mean, America has a political correctness problem so the way he conveys a lot of things rubs people the wrong way. I guess it's the idea of doing some of the stuff upsets them but I think the reality is he can't/won't.

Like I said I think people will be more shocked when they realize he's a moderate/liberal on most issues if he does win. For the time being I think he's still pandering.

There's a lot of people that simply don't want the typical politician, hence the support for Trump/Sanders. 
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  Date Posted #7 Sunday, May 29, 2016 12:28:22 PM   

Originally posted by Allustrious
There's a lot of people that simply don't want the typical politician, hence the support for Trump/Sanders.


Wow. I 100% agree.  
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  Date Posted #8 Tuesday, May 31, 2016 10:53:13 AM   

...and yet an atypical politician trying to get typical politicians to move forward on any of his/her ideas while sitting in the hot-seat will get little to nothing of importance done while in office (unless sucking up to said politicians). 
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  Date Posted #9 Friday, June 03, 2016 01:50:37 PM   

Because Trump isn't a politician, he gets away with saying things and lying when no politician would that said the same things. Actually, it attracts many people that are sick of politics because it distinguishes him as an outsider. Plus our media is so bad there that there is very little focus on his record or his platform; we'd rather report on something silly he said or the golf course he owns. American media is very unique in our coverage of elections - it really detracts from the issues. Nobody even knows where Trump stands on the issues (Trump included).

To your original question though, he's a credible candidate for sure because he's reached the main election and has half a chance of winning. As a person he's a joke, as a candidate he's credible. I've known for at least a year that Hillary is going to win though, the blind support she's been building for so long is difficult to surmount. I hope Bernie supporters go over to the green party instead of backing her, but probably won't happen in significant numbers. 
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  Date Posted #10 Wednesday, June 08, 2016 11:32:48 AM   

Most candidates backtrack/lie about their "platform" anyway and aren't seriously held to it so it doesn't seem to matter much that Trump's just a bunch of nonsense. He would have to work with Paul Ryan/Mitch McConnel to get anything done it's not possible to be a dictator. What exactly are Hilary's principles anyway? They have all changed over the past 10 years, or even the last year so why would anyone take what she (or any "real politician") says more seriously? They are just a 'serious lie' that people have long grown cynical about and since we know they would change the moment some new polls come in or a new tactical consideration emerges, they are just as much of a fantasy of whatever goofy crap Trump is mouthing off about on any given day.

The election will come down to character and there's a very good chance Trump wins because he is a better talker than Hilary, who has never really shown herself to be a great politician (the only election she ever won was in a deep blue state that was served up for her on a platter). Go listen to her talk she never says a damn thing directly or in plain language, it's all obfuscated nonsense designed to avoid saying anything direct, meanwhile Trump's no BS anti-PC talk is clearly hitting a positive note with people. For the rest of the balance she is just as flawed a character as Trump is, except her flaws are worse since she is perceived as a bitchy liar while he is more of a rascal (Bill Clinton-esque actually). Also her baggage has been accumulated as a Washington D.C. lifer which people hate while he was a successful private businessman which is something that is still decently respected in large parts of America, even if a lot of his businesses were shady hustles, still a notch above the 'Clinton Foundation' pay to play shenanigans the FBI is investigating. 
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  Date Posted #11 Thursday, June 09, 2016 02:54:59 AM   

I am abstaining from voting this time around. None of the candidates excite me, and I'm not really concerned about Trump or Hillary one way or the other. They are both highly flawed candidates that have more cons than pros for me, and all the third-party candidates are nutjobs (Stein and her anti-vax shit, Gary Johnson trying hard to be Ron Paul Lite, etc).

Refuse to vote for Trump because he's a fucking nitwit who speaks on an elementary level.

Refuse to vote for Hillary because she is Reptillian Shapeshifter.

I may just write in Elizabeth Warren. 
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  Date Posted #12 Thursday, June 09, 2016 01:40:39 PM   

The reason why Bernie is so popular on the left and Trump on the right is one thing they both share as a campaign issue. Get money out of politics, or also known as get rid of the establishment. This is the 'anger' they've both tapped into. Bernie has great and bad ideas, so does Trump. Hillary has ideas we've already seen and heard before and if voted into office you can expect more of the same shit we got with Clinton/Bush/Obama, etc.

This is why I think Trump will win barring vote fraud shenanigans from the Hillary crowd. I personally would liked to have seen Bernie get into the WH, but will be voting Trump if for no other reason than because he is anti-establishment. It sucks all around, none of these candidates are ideal.

I really hope Trump is a master troll with his statements, riling people up on purpose. His past makes him seem more center than far right. So we'll see. I'm worried about his view on climate change. But I agree with his view on stronger legal immigration enforcement and treating Islam/Muslims as the threat they really are. I hope he understands economics enough to get us out of the recession we've been in for over a decade. But I'm not counting on anything. :(

This election year is really nothing more than a hail mary in any direction.  
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  Date Posted #13 Friday, June 10, 2016 12:36:37 PM   

Originally posted by DeadPan
treating Islam/Muslims as the threat they really are


treating radical Islam/Muslims as the threat they are

The same could very easily be said for Christians. I have quite a few Muslim friends who are normal people, and actually kinder, more down to earth people than the majority. The minority within Islamic culture are the problem. Hell, depressed American teenagers/drop-outs are just as much a problem for those that convert to radical militant factions. ffs 
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  Date Posted #14 Friday, June 10, 2016 02:11:46 PM   

Originally posted by Beelzebub
For the rest of the balance she is just as flawed a character as Trump is, except her flaws are worse since she is perceived as a bitchy liar while he is more of a rascal (Bill Clinton-esque actually). Also her baggage has been accumulated as a Washington D.C. lifer which people hate while he was a successful private businessman which is something that is still decently respected in large parts of America, even if a lot of his businesses were shady hustles, still a notch above the 'Clinton Foundation' pay to play shenanigans the FBI is investigating.


Originally posted by Beelzebub
For the rest of the balance she is just as flawed a character as Trump is, except her flaws are worse since she is perceived as a bitchy liar while he is more of a rascal (Bill Clinton-esque actually).


Originally posted by Beelzebub
he is more of a rascal.



wtf don't bring me into this 
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  Date Posted #15 Friday, June 10, 2016 04:38:54 PM   

I was hoping you would notice 
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  Date Posted #16 Saturday, June 11, 2016 04:28:58 AM   

Originally posted by Detrimental
all the third-party candidates are nutjobs (Stein and her anti-vax shit, Gary Johnson trying hard to be Ron Paul Lite, etc).


So out of all the political issues, you're saying that near the top of your list is something jill stein said about vaccines? It doesn't matter that she wants to save the world from nuclear war or environmental destruction? if you want a candidate you agree with 100% then you better run for pres.

 
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  Date Posted #17 Saturday, June 11, 2016 04:32:30 AM   

Originally posted by Realm
Originally posted by DeadPan
treating Islam/Muslims as the threat they really are


treating radical Islam/Muslims as the threat they are

The same could very easily be said for Christians. I have quite a few Muslim friends who are normal people, and actually kinder, more down to earth people than the majority. The minority within Islamic culture are the problem. Hell, depressed American teenagers/drop-outs are just as much a problem for those that convert to radical militant factions. ffs


The radical Christians are much more scary imho. Many more people have been killed from Christians in the US than Muslims from religion inspired killings. Look at Dylan Roof. The problem is social stratification and religion in general, not Muslims. We always like to blame the "others" that stand out though. 
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  Date Posted #18 Saturday, June 11, 2016 11:30:13 AM   

Originally posted by yumy
Originally posted by Realm
Originally posted by DeadPan
treating Islam/Muslims as the threat they really are


treating radical Islam/Muslims as the threat they are

The same could very easily be said for Christians. I have quite a few Muslim friends who are normal people, and actually kinder, more down to earth people than the majority. The minority within Islamic culture are the problem. Hell, depressed American teenagers/drop-outs are just as much a problem for those that convert to radical militant factions. ffs


The radical Christians are much more scary imho. Many more people have been killed from Christians in the US than Muslims from religion inspired killings. Look at Dylan Roof. The problem is social stratification and religion in general, not Muslims. We always like to blame the "others" that stand out though.

Are you implying that many more people have been killed my Christian Extremists than Muslim Extremists? Because last time I checked 2000 people never died from a Christian Terrorist Group. You might have an argument if you said Domestic Terrorism. And we can pontificate all we want about how Islam isn't a problem but name me one other religion where almost every single country with a majority population has a problem with a subsect of that religion committing terrorist acts be it Pakistan, Egypt, Malaysia, Indonesia etc. My whole life i've identified as a liberal but there comes a point in time when you have to acknowledge the facts and stop with the PC bullshit and realize that Islam is indeed at the root of most of these problems.
 
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  Date Posted #19 Saturday, June 11, 2016 03:37:14 PM   

it's obvious the biggest threat across the globe is from radicalized religious zealots, and the largest of that threat happens to be radicalized muslims. just the way it is. i don't know why people are putting on this self-righteous white guilt act and pretending like it isn't. nobody thinks there's a higher probability of some christian nutjob shooting up an airport or a shopping mall. ppl need to drop the white guilt bullshit already. if you really think these people are so civilized go book a vacation in raqqa or something. 
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  Date Posted #20 Wednesday, June 15, 2016 04:44:12 PM   

I dunno, I don't view them as much of a threat. What have they killed in the last 2 decades? How many people? Like 1/1000th of what heart disease or cancer kills? And we spend over 10x as much on them?

When I see 50 people in a night club die or 50 people die in a plane crash I view them as similar instances. I'd rather prevent 51 people dying from a car accident then 50 people from a night club, regardless of if the act had ill intent or was an accident.

So a ban on all muslims is pretty stupid IMO. It works for helping stop terrorism (Allust is right IMO) but it's just not worth the negatives. Honestly, more effective for saving lives and helping people would be a ban on McDonalds than a ban on muslims.  
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  Date Posted #21 Thursday, June 16, 2016 04:25:10 AM   

Originally posted by Sinn Fein
Originally posted by yumy
Originally posted by Realm
Originally posted by DeadPan
treating Islam/Muslims as the threat they really are


treating radical Islam/Muslims as the threat they are

The same could very easily be said for Christians. I have quite a few Muslim friends who are normal people, and actually kinder, more down to earth people than the majority. The minority within Islamic culture are the problem. Hell, depressed American teenagers/drop-outs are just as much a problem for those that convert to radical militant factions. ffs


The radical Christians are much more scary imho. Many more people have been killed from Christians in the US than Muslims from religion inspired killings. Look at Dylan Roof. The problem is social stratification and religion in general, not Muslims. We always like to blame the "others" that stand out though.

Are you implying that many more people have been killed my Christian Extremists than Muslim Extremists? Because last time I checked 2000 people never died from a Christian Terrorist Group. You might have an argument if you said Domestic Terrorism. And we can pontificate all we want about how Islam isn't a problem but name me one other religion where almost every single country with a majority population has a problem with a subsect of that religion committing terrorist acts be it Pakistan, Egypt, Malaysia, Indonesia etc. My whole life i've identified as a liberal but there comes a point in time when you have to acknowledge the facts and stop with the PC bullshit and realize that Islam is indeed at the root of most of these problems.


I said from religion motivated killings. 9/11 was because we had been pillaging their land and killing them for decades. And if we want to go back in time a little further, it's called the KKK.

The sad part is, our media breaks apart these killings for days or weeks yet the conversation is always so shallow. Basically, they want to know how to categorize the killing, was it a religious hate crime or an anti-homosexual crime? And is there any way we can blame a woman for it? They try to find this recurring theme of dangerous Muslim men, yet only a few muslim americans are dangerous. The point they overlook every time is that it is almost always men. No other "developed" nation has anywhere near our number of murders.

The real problem our media misses with every mass killing is the hypermasculinity complex in America where men think they have to be aggressive and controlling to be masculine. Our self-esteem is attached to our fulfillment of our insane gender roles, and when we fail to meet society's expectations we overcompensate with violence. We don't have a Muslim problem in America, we have a men problem. 
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  Date Posted #22 Thursday, June 16, 2016 06:51:36 AM   

oh so ur a feminist

and ur one of those ppl that think al qaeda and isis want to kill us just because we exist in their little bubble of terror over there in the middle east.

lol give me a break with this stuff really? 
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  Date Posted #23 Thursday, June 16, 2016 11:53:38 AM   

religion in general needs to be wiped off the planet for us to move forward as people. islam would be a good start 
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  Date Posted #24 Thursday, June 16, 2016 07:17:16 PM   

Originally posted by Allustrious
oh so ur a feminist <


yep, and proud of it. Feminist means that I think that men and women should be treated equally. I would hope everyone on here is a feminist.

Originally posted by Allustrious
and ur one of those ppl that think al qaeda and isis want to kill us just because we exist in their little bubble of terror over there in the middle east.

lol give me a break with this stuff really?


So you're in the camp that Al Qaeda/ISIS simply hate us because they are jealous of all our magnificent American prosperity and freedom? Not something that I'd personally wage a war over. We have played interventionist across the globe for the last century. You can't get involved in dozens of civil wars and tribal battles and support oppressive dictators without making enemies. Personally, if someone came into my nation and assisted an enemy in eradicating me, killed my friends and family, I would likely consider war as an answer too. Obviously, our 13 years of war in Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya/Syria/Pakistan hasn't won us any more allies over there recently. Thirteen more years of war won't either. 
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  Date Posted #25 Friday, June 17, 2016 09:49:56 AM   

No they hate us because their holy book is basically a hate book telling them to go out and make jihad on infidels (who are characterized as sub-human not worthy of life) and every week in basically every mosque around the world they are getting a sermon about it. This was happening 1000 years before GW Bush.

And please dude, do yourself a favour and stop calling yourself a 'feminist' unless you're trying to get some with some kind of women's study chick. You just sound like a massive douchebag by characterizing yourself as that because you agree with the statement that 'men & women should be equal' which is something 90% of people would agree with. The contemporary concept of 'feminism' has a much more loaded political and ideological meaning than just that simple statement. 
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  Date Posted #26 Friday, June 17, 2016 02:56:42 PM   

lol hypermasculinity yeah that's what causing all these mass shootings. Of course your whole theory falls apart the second you realize the most masculine culture in the USA is Hispanics and I don't see them running around shooting up gay clubs and shopping malls because the machismo is too much. You can go on and on about how Islam is a religion of peace and it's only a small portion of the population that engages in this sort of extremism but the facts are facts. In almost every country on the planet that has a significant Muslim population there is a threat from terrorism, and that's not even going into the whole Sunni vs Shia issue about who has a better understanding of what their invisible friend told them roughly 1500 years ago. So yeah it's not this "Religion of Peace" everyone wants to make it out to be, it's a bunch of fucking idiots with stone age beliefs who are from a society where the only form of organized government is the brutal suppression of human rights. You can blame the US and all the little adventures we've gotten into in the Arabic world but at the end of the day other than a couple hundred years in the middle ages these have been backwards societies since people realized they could have cities in places that aren't a fucking desert. 
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  Date Posted #27 Saturday, June 18, 2016 01:39:24 AM   

No, the most hypermasculine subculture in america is white men. Not sure what you are basing your theories on. Studies have shown that white men are the group that suppress their emotions most (except for anger, which they display most).

You realize that most societies were pretty primitive until very recently right? Europe (and thus America by association) just happened to have the right metals and developed better technology first...it's not like we are somehow superior.

feminism only has a negative connotation because men who were afraid of women gaining power gave it one. Pretty typical response to fear, happens in every circumstance where disadvantaged groups start to gain equality (look at Jim Crow). I'm guessing you're conflating feminism with misandry which isn't the case at all. If not then why don't you explain how you define it. It's just been given some loaded definition in attempts to discredit it. 
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I supported Ted Cruz since his run for the Senate. He couldn't stop the Trump train unfortunately, but as with everything in life you sometimes have to compromise and choose the best path, even if it isn't your preferred path.

With Hillary I know 100% what we are going to get. A continuation of Obama's path of socialism/communism, where people work their asses off to support the scum who are more than happy to live off the government teet...most of these people on welfare/food stamps are the scum of the Earth. Wouldn't take a job if it was offered to them for twice what they get for free. This woman should be in prison (actually she should face the firing squad for treason), let's hope the FBI does their job.

With Trump I agree with some ideas (or go even further on some, Muslims have NO PLACE in the USA), disagree with others, and am not sure he will do some things he says...but that is a better choice than someone who I am 100% positive will run this country into the ground. 
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  Date Posted #30 Monday, June 20, 2016 04:51:19 PM   

Originally posted by Ak1
I supported Ted Cruz since his run for the Senate. He couldn't stop the Trump train unfortunately, but as with everything in life you sometimes have to compromise and choose the best path, even if it isn't your preferred path.

With Hillary I know 100% what we are going to get. A continuation of Obama's path of socialism/communism, where people work their asses off to support the scum who are more than happy to live off the government teet...most of these people on welfare/food stamps are the scum of the Earth. Wouldn't take a job if it was offered to them for twice what they get for free. This woman should be in prison (actually she should face the firing squad for treason), let's hope the FBI does their job.

With Trump I agree with some ideas (or go even further on some, Muslims have NO PLACE in the USA), disagree with others, and am not sure he will do some things he says...but that is a better choice than someone who I am 100% positive will run this country into the ground.


You chose to support Ted Cruz, a man who isn't even american and his father probably killed Kennedy. That isn't the best path friend. 
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  Date Posted #31 Monday, June 20, 2016 09:03:02 PM   

Originally posted by Sinn Fein
Originally posted by Ak1
I supported Ted Cruz since his run for the Senate. He couldn't stop the Trump train unfortunately, but as with everything in life you sometimes have to compromise and choose the best path, even if it isn't your preferred path.

With Hillary I know 100% what we are going to get. A continuation of Obama's path of socialism/communism, where people work their asses off to support the scum who are more than happy to live off the government teet...most of these people on welfare/food stamps are the scum of the Earth. Wouldn't take a job if it was offered to them for twice what they get for free. This woman should be in prison (actually she should face the firing squad for treason), let's hope the FBI does their job.

With Trump I agree with some ideas (or go even further on some, Muslims have NO PLACE in the USA), disagree with others, and am not sure he will do some things he says...but that is a better choice than someone who I am 100% positive will run this country into the ground.


You chose to support Ted Cruz, a man who isn't even american and his father probably killed Kennedy. That isn't the best path friend.


You need to keep an eye on your Alex Jones intake friend. A little bit at a time is good for you...too much leads to the loony bin. 
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  Date Posted #32 Tuesday, June 21, 2016 08:29:55 AM   

Originally posted by Ak1
I supported Ted Cruz since his run for the Senate. He couldn't stop the Trump train unfortunately, but as with everything in life you sometimes have to compromise and choose the best path, even if it isn't your preferred path.

With Hillary I know 100% what we are going to get. A continuation of Obama's path of socialism/communism, where people work their asses off to support the scum who are more than happy to live off the government teet...most of these people on welfare/food stamps are the scum of the Earth. Wouldn't take a job if it was offered to them for twice what they get for free. This woman should be in prison (actually she should face the firing squad for treason), let's hope the FBI does their job.

With Trump I agree with some ideas (or go even further on some, Muslims have NO PLACE in the USA), disagree with others, and am not sure he will do some things he says...but that is a better choice than someone who I am 100% positive will run this country into the ground.


Hillary is a Republican in a pantsuit. C'mon, man. And up until recently, Trump was a centrist. 
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  Date Posted #33 Monday, July 25, 2016 04:53:24 PM   

What are the opinions here on climate change? 
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  Date Posted #34 Monday, July 25, 2016 06:50:17 PM   

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What are the opinions here on climate change?


the climate changes 4 times a year where i live. we have spring, summer, fall and winter. it's quite nice. 
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  Date Posted #35 Monday, July 25, 2016 08:11:41 PM   

That's it's real an likely a long-term problem?

That's my take on it. 
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  Date Posted #36 Tuesday, July 26, 2016 10:04:33 AM   

It's good for Canada. 
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  Date Posted #37 Tuesday, July 26, 2016 04:26:55 PM   

Originally posted by Ucross
That's it's real an likely


 
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  Date Posted #38 Tuesday, July 26, 2016 05:31:36 PM   

only 110+ for the past 3 months 
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  Date Posted #39 Tuesday, July 26, 2016 05:32:30 PM   

Good job living in a desert. 
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  Date Posted #40 Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:29:33 PM   

In 100 years American will be the Sahara and Canada will be the new California. =P Go fear tactics go! 
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  Date Posted #41 Wednesday, July 27, 2016 12:45:07 PM   

Pfft, c'mon. You know it's more like 250 years. 
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  Date Posted #42 Monday, January 23, 2017 08:21:32 AM   

So how's this going? 
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  Date Posted #43 Thursday, February 02, 2017 08:27:07 AM   

I hope yumy didn't get hurt in the Berkley riots. 
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  Date Posted #44 Sunday, February 05, 2017 04:17:29 PM   

I hope yumy got hurt in the Berkley riots. I hope he got punched right in his vagina. 
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  Date Posted #45 Monday, February 06, 2017 07:41:24 PM   

Welp. 
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  Date Posted #46 Sunday, February 19, 2017 10:01:23 PM   

Originally posted by Beelzebub
I hope yumy didn't get hurt in the Berkley riots.


i miss all of this 
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  Date Posted #47 Monday, July 03, 2017 09:55:27 AM   

Waterworld. Costner was right. 
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  Date Posted #48 Tuesday, July 04, 2017 09:50:33 AM